Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Moving release date

I'll have to move release date, planned for September, in October.

As I mentioned in the comment of previous post, the main reason is how Menu Specification took longer to implement than I expected. Now I understaind why LXDE guys decided to not implement it: it is simply too complicated for this simple task.

Yes, it is powerfull, but the things could be simplified a little bit. Hell, you even have a pattern matcher in it!

For example, why do I have to care about legacy menus; they are not used any more and the spec should mention it in initial draft, not carry it through all versions. You implement it once, do the conversion and there are no more needs for legacy menus.

Or merging: couldn't one perl/python script solve this? Even better, both things could be put in one script called when desktop starts.

Current implementation in EDE is not full; menu merging and layout customizing is not yet supported and I will leave them for the future version(s). Those things that are supported are passing official menu regression tests.

Of course, partial implementation will not cripple the final menu presentation if sane menu configuration is used (e.g. like the one shipped with Xfce). Or you are definitely trying to complicate the things :P


ChristTrekker said...

I agree. Legacy menus should undergo a one-time conversion, so that menu implementations don't have to keep on carrying the cruft forward! Seems like a design goal without much thought, there.

Sanel Z. said...

To me, it looked more like a decision to satisfy (needs of) all interested parties yielding complicated specification(s)/programs/etc.

In these cases, BDFL is a recue :)

jannispohlmann said...

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one whom it took some time to implement this specification. Although I gotta say that developing our second iteration (garcon, first development version released last night) wasn't too bad.
At Xfce we now have support for menu merging and custom layouts. The legacy menu part might have been more important in the early days of the spec when it was just in the process of being adopted everywhere, so we're not supporting it at the moment. I haven't seen a legacy-style menu in a while, anyway.
Although... I'm not so sure about KDE3 which I think didn't implement the spec.